Saturday, December 9, 2017

Is Piedmont Planning On Leaving Salisbury? Comment Worthy A Post

Piedmont is switching to new and larger jet aircraft, and its future in Salisbury is uncertain, both for flight operations and general office and admin. Most of its personnel are based elsewhere, primarily in Philadelphia, Charlotte and Phoenix. American (parent) and Piedmont are getting new and bigger facilities in those and other airports where most of their flights are to/from. Salisbury flights and passengers are an increasing smaller share. Don't be surprised if Piedmont is gone completely from Salisbury in a year or so from now. 

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

It may happen even sooner. This was Q & A was posted this week on an airline pilots website:

Originally Posted by Pilot2886 View Post
Is Salisbury a low seniority base? I live in MD and considering applying to Piedmont.

Is Piedmont flying the EMB 145's out of Salisbury?
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PHL is a short drive from MD... all new hires are going into the 145 out of Philly. SBY base closes next month IIRC leaving only ROA for the dash and PHL for the jet.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/piedmont-airlines/109763-salisbury-md-base-question.html

Anonymous said...

The passenger numbers at Salisbury are still falling, so there is no reason for Piedmont to keep operating here if they can't handle those 145's profitably. The new facility in Roanoke and Philly may be the killer for Salisbury.

Anonymous said...

The CEO lives in Salisbury. They aren’t going anywhere.

Anonymous said...

If you could fly from Salisbury to Florida I bet they would have a lot more business...I'm not paying 400 dollars to fly from Salisbury to Baltimore and then to my destination.

Anonymous said...

3:24,

That new facility is in Richmond, not Roanoke, and is for the 145's. Agree it could be the killer for SBY.

Anonymous said...

Pretty sure the CEO could care less if they are in Salisbury if it's not profitable. I doubt his concern is catching a Dash or 145 flight. Pretty certain he has his own accommodations.

Anonymous said...

I have worked there for 32 years. There is no talk of moving. Matter of fact there are heavy renovations to the office spaces and lobby to bring them to AA standards. Doubt this would be happening if the operation was on it's way out.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The CEO lives in Salisbury. They aren’t going anywhere.

Don't bet on that. Piedmont is owned by American Airlines, which calls the shots. True, Piedmont's CEO and the office/admin staff could stay here, unless American decides to relocate them too, but if they stay the aircraft operations and repair/maintenance personnel are likely to go sooner.

At present, only a small and decreasing portion of Piedmont's employees and operations are located in Salisbury, so the relocation should come as no surprise. There are about 1600 Piedmont personnel in Charlotte, where it does almost 50 departures daily, compared to several hundred in Salisbury, where it does less than 10 departures and landings per day. At present there are about 400 daily departures/landings system-wide.

Anonymous said...

Was not long ago our C.E. was catering to them and the county dumped large amounts of money out there.Everything he touches fails or either falls down the stairs.

Anonymous said...

Who is the CEO

Anno said...

Did you even bother doing any research or talking to any SBY based employees for Piedmont? That's a no! Piedmont is putting a fair share of money into the SBY offices. They are remodeling the corporate offices. Piedmont in SBY isn't going anywhere. Piedmont is more then pilots here in Salisbury.

Anonymous said...

6:27 SBY doesn’t fly into BWI

Anonymous said...

I used to love to fly out of SBY - so easy and convenient. After my last two flights back were cancelled and I had to scramble up a rental car just to make my commitments the next day - FORGET IT!

Anonymous said...

Your story is BS. The new jets are serviced at central hubs... Stop making up stories you know nothing about.

Anonymous said...

The Piedmont corporate offices and maintenance operations are not leaving SBY. Piedmont’s job within the American Airlines’ route system is to support the feeding of passengers from smaller (spoke) cities into the PHL hub. It no longer makes sense for Piedmont to keep 300 pilots and flight attendants based in SBY to support 3 SBY departures before 8am when the vast majority of their flight operations occur at PHL. However, aircraft maintenance is another story. Piedmont has maintenance hubs in SBY, Roanoke, Harrisburg, and Richmond. Piedmont’s SBY (Wicomico County owned) hangar complex is the largest hangar complex of the four. Piedmont can hangar 4 145,s easily (5 makes a tight fit) in the SBY hangars while the RIC can only fit 2 145’s. Piedmont’s goal is to have a fleet of as many as 60 ERJ-145’s. Many more 145’s than Dash-8s. Another factor impacting Piedmont’s long term presence at SBY is the fact there are an no vacant hangars found in the piedmont route system that can accommodate multiple 145’s. All the hangars that current host Piedmont maintenance operations are City/county owned hangars leased to Piedmont. The cost of construction of new hangar facilities are huge and few City/County governments are willing to foot the bill for such construction.

Anonymous said...

The Dash 8's are at the end of their service life. The hangars are not big enough for the EMB's. A small administrative section may stay, but anything aircraft maintenance wise is done. This downsizing has been going on for years and years.

Anonymous said...

Piedmont gets paid by the govt to fly empty planes in and out of Salisbury, so the flights will remain.

Anonymous said...

I always take a private jet out of Salisbury. I could care less about you peons and your little "airport."

Anonymous said...

WRONG! The tail height of the ERJ 145 is lower than the dash-8s. The eingdpan is also 20-ft short. The fuselage is about 20-ft longer but no problem fitting 1 ERJ145 in hangar 1 and 3-4 ERJ145s in hangar 2.

Anonymous said...

And thee County has no business in the business

Anonymous said...

Pretty soon Wallops will be a public spaceport and we can fly out there to the Moon or Mars, where all the good jobs are mining space rock, maybe growing space chickens. Then end of day, fly back down and crush a case of Natural and do it all over next day.

Anonymous said...

WRONG! SBY is not an FAA/DOT Essential Air Service EAS market. You are deliberately spewing nonsense.

Anonymous said...

Another gross misconception from someone who is deliberately spewing nonsense. You do not need to purchase separate tickets between SBY and either PHL or CLT then a second separate ticket onto Orlando. Next time you purchase a ticket price the ticket SBY direct MCO (Orlando). You’ll be surprised at the lower cost.

Anonymous said...

Yea can't wait till those space jobs open up. Do you need a special license to work space?

Anonymous said...

Nice to see all the SBY Airport people on here commenting. Maybe you should concentrate on running the airplanes into the sky instead of the facility into the ground. More Bob hires.. the director at $110k a year his farmer buddies, one of which just got a DUI, and his other buddy shifted around for the 5th time finally "landing" at the airport to do more of nothing. You just can't make this stuff up.

Anonymous said...

Maybe you should study English instead of being a pompous asshole. The quote is “I couldn’t care less”. Saying “I COULD care less” is stupid and makes no sense. If you COULD care less, it means you DO care. Idiot.

Anonymous said...

3:26 No, just apply look at space-careers.com. They need space chicken ship drivers, need have your SCDLs.

Anonymous said...

Everyone can say that they "know" they are staying....BULL! They have continually priced and non-serviced themselves right out of the market place. No business will continue to operate a money losing venture for long. They may even do some office renovations, but, only to entice a perspective buyer or business replacement. Cheaper to rent a car from Philadelphia or Washington to drive to Salisbury than these over price commuters!

Anonymous said...

Good.They need to clear out so bigger and more respectable planes can come here.All they are are glorified puddle jumpers.

Anonymous said...

It will be there is a threat of no service.

Anonymous said...

The latest in Bob Drama

Anonymous said...

8:18 AM I am with you. Between cost and cancelled flights I shuttle to BWI and have a marvelous day. The cost to fly to Philly is ridiculous.

1:20 PM you are the one spewing fake info. We all know you have to buy a leg to Philly to get anywhere else out of Ghettobury and the cost is ridiculous, plus you get the added bonus of a 50% chance your flight will be cancelled.

I arrive in Philly at 1PM from Florida for a 3PM connection. Sat there till 9PM, called a family member to come get me. For 6 hours they would not tell us if we had a flight home or not AND they let out luggage sit on the tarmac in the rain.

Screw Piedmont, screw Philly. Shuttle and be done with it.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

The CEO lives in Salisbury. They aren’t going anywhere.

December 9, 2017 at 5:56 PM"


The CEO Lyle Hogg really doesn't have much of a say in what goes on with Piedmont since it is owned by the larger American Airlines. Learn how business works before making such utterly ridiculous comments.

Anonymous said...

This is inevitable. Common sense will tell anyone. With virtually no businesses in Salisbury that rely on daily and constant business travel no airline is going to survive here.

Anonymous said...

think about it. the county could build hundreds of section 8 homes on that property along with basketball courts and swimming pools. they could build a terminal for public transportation. they could put up a food bank. build liquor stores with 24 hour lottery sales. they could build a nonprofit clinic to help those with life threatening gunshot wounds. last but not least, they could give everyone free tuition at worwic. the airport needs to go away so we can help our citizens accomplish their goals.

Anonymous said...

hey 214, we could also move a chicken processing plant over there in case someone feels compelled to work.

Anonymous said...

10:29 I work for a major food company based in Salisbury (that you may have heard of) and I travel nationally. The flights I take out of SBY every week are usually very full. I welcome the jet service and appreciate the convenience of having this airport in our back yard.