Tuesday, February 16, 2016

Why The Hate On Everything??

I posted the new graphic ideas for Salisbury and of course have received mostly negative about the logo ..etc etc. I just want to remind people there were public inputs on this process and if you wanted to be heard you should have gone. I hated the "bury" crap and Jake is cleaning that up by using what the pubic input told him they wanted. It is clean classy look. Yea I may not like one or two things but overall I think it looks nice and gives us a new direction

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

There's not "hate on everything." This is hated by most because it's foolish. The Comfortable Side of Coastal! Come on! This company is supposed to be professional. They should not need input from citizens to come up with something and that is a fact. They should have come up with something then did a soft launch with public input.

Anonymous said...

The problem is "The Comfortable Side of Coastal" is @#$@#$ 2$@$@. Plain and simple. No one faults rebranding the city. It's the fact the city got ripped off big time by some out of town company for a cookie-cutter promotional package that looks and sounds childish.

The mayor doesn't want to say whether he loves or hates the slogan, all he wants to say is "well the people picked it" and the city didn't have to pay for it. But it was paid for by a state grant, so end the end Maryland tax payers got snookered for a @#$@ design that is unusable. (or if the mayor is dumb enough to use, makes us look stupid)

Anonymous said...

It does look childish. There is nothing exciting about it and there is no defending it. It's nauseating that money was wasted on this and it speaks volumes to the unprofessional amateur work this company does. The bottom line is-it's stupid. Next time let local students have the honor of coming up with something and I guarantee it will be much better.

Anonymous said...

Why is there a sailboat in the city seal? Where are there sailboats in Salisbury?

Anonymous said...

I love the brand new signs and symbols. It give Salisbury a fresh new look and we are close to Ocean City And we do have our own beautiful river downtown! We are indeed a Coastal Community. We are going to have more businesses coming downtown and through out the city. Our Mayor and City Council have worked together to make progress. With the crime rate being at at an all time low people are starting to see how beautiful Salisbury truly is!The Bury was also a good slogan it helped draw business downtown which is very important!

Anonymous said...

Feel good things, does not address the root of the problems in Salisbury. The new mayor is starting to look like a flash in the pan, lacks experience and will get burned if the truth about crime ever comes out.

Jonathan Taylor said...

Seriously a public input selected design and Jake becomes a flash in the pan?? Come on man that's a bit extreme

Anonymous said...

Okay JT how exactly does this give Salisbury a "new direction?" What is this going to change? Is it going to cut down on crime? Raise the income levels? Improve homeownership rates? Cut down on foreclosures?
5:26 nailed it. It is nothing more than a feel good gesture. That is it, that is all. And it is a flash in the pan which is a not well thought out effort that accomplishes nothing. That's not being extreme. It's being realistic.
Don't try and excuse this by blaming it on the public. If this company were professional they wouldn't need "public input." They encourage it I bet so they can blame them when their efforts turn out like this.

Anonymous said...

Okay so free internet was going to bring people downtown. Then the trolley. Now this is going to bring people nationwide into Sby. When are you going to learn JT. Address the root of the problem! 5:26 gets it and so do many others. People aren't fooled by this fluff, feel good, looking like they are actually doing something action. Jake Day said right in the OC paper that he didn't want crime discussed. That's the problem and that is why Sby will continue to spiral downhill. You can cover shit with sugar but it will still reek.

Anonymous said...

Do you believe the majority of the people in the city care about a new seal,no they care about their quality of life. Business are closing, the Plaza is dying and the former mayor is hanging out in the wrong places. Jake makes people feel good, but it won't last unless the real issues are dealt with.

Jonathan Taylor said...

So we should make new signs that say we are a thug town with shit rivers and drunk college kids?? Yea that's gonna help bring business in and make the area better

Anonymous said...

6:28 he is afraid to discuss crime because he does not want to know what is going on, can't keep your head in the sand forever. Crime is being under reported.

Anonymous said...

Your observations are right on, don't you think other people feel the same. If you are going to invest in a business don't you think they would look into the problems first. New seal is nice but it won't stabilize the town. The slogan bury only made the city look bad.

Anonymous said...

No one is suggesting to make signs saying that JT. They aren't needed. It's already a well known that the area is high crime and the river's dirty and the college kids can make life miserable for some residents on occasion. What's being suggested is clean up the area which is the first and most important step to making an area appealing to outsiders.

Anonymous said...

"Jonathan Taylor said...

So we should make new signs that say we are a thug town with shit rivers and drunk college kids??"


No, not at all. That too would be a complete waste of money since everyone already is aware it's a thug town with shit rivers and drunk college kids. Deal with the problems and the issues that make the area undesirable and fix them.

Anonymous said...

"a new direction?" Kinda like when Baltimore came up with the slogan The City That Reads. That went over real good. It certainly pointed them in a "new direction" alright. LOL Baltimore is being referred to now as The City That Bleeds.

Anonymous said...

Well even Jt might disagree but I have lived in salisbury all my life and everything that has been done through the efforts of Mayor Ireton And Mayor Day have all always been in the best interest of the city! I have been really pleased with the efforts of all the positive things that have been happening! Trolley service, Clean Rivers, Lower crime rates, More jobs being created,Bike lanes, lower taxes, Riverwalk project, The arts district, affordable housing, community gardens, 3rd friday,. We have new store opening up Sleep Number, Five Guys, Aspen Dental, just to name a few. This equals jobs and people have money to put food on the table and provide for their family!

Anonymous said...

"The Seal of The city of" needs to be taken off. It's too much. Salisbury, Maryland and the year are enough.

Anonymous said...

I think 7:23 is one of the mayors,too funny.

Anonymous said...

What are you smoking 7:23?

You can't be serious.

Anonymous said...

Get the hell out from under the rock you are under 7:23. If you think for one second the crime rate is lower you are one stupid ignorant low information freak. Things like you belong in a cage. You are all that is wrong in this country. Go and get spay/neutered. It's nauseating to think such an ignoramus may be a parent.

Anonymous said...

Why try and brand without attacking the real problems first, crime, lack of businesses and no downtown appeal. That like trying to put a positive image on a cesspool? Take care of problems first! Get rid of the stench.

Anonymous said...

Instead of jake day coming in and trying to cover up the problems in the city, he should not take for granted what has been happening before him. As a leader it is incumbent upon him to audit all the operations of the departments to see where improvements can be made, if things aren't working and they haven't been, make corrections. If he doesn't take this type of action his legacy will be no different then iretons, river still dirty, vacant buildings on the plaza, crime under reported and no new substantial businesses coming to Salisbury and higher taxes. His personality will not correct the blight that exists.

Anonymous said...

Everything about it is deceiving and nothing but a lie. What a waste of good tax dollars.

DIZEMAN aka Jon Dize said...
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Anonymous said...

Putting up a new billboard design doesn't change ANYTHING, that's why.

If I've got a water leak in my house, I don't just slap some new drywall up and call it good. Salisbury's mayor should concentrate on our town's negatives, and there's a very long list before signage. But this is what you get when a Mayorship is gift-wrapped to a kid who's done nothing in his life besides the JMB memorial garden.

Anonymous said...

Until they get a New Salisbury police chief in the bury NOTHING will change.

Anonymous said...

Not hate at all. Just telling it like it is. A city's brand is developed over the years by policies and amenities and there isn't anything including some glorified "branding" effort that's going to change that.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone say this new seal looks good? Instead of the sailboat it ought to have a chicken on it-LOL. What's the significance of the tree and what is the pic on the lower left and the upper right of even? It's a visual hot mess with too much shoved into a small area.

Anonymous said...

The Seal should have, a crack pipe, a bottle of booze superimposed over the college, a handgun, and a pair of handcuffs.

Sorry JT, I usually agree with you, but not this time. No had feelings.

By they way I like the new format.

Anonymous said...

"KEEP SALISBURY GHETTO"

Anonymous said...

Looks to me like the same people who initially expressed negativity doubled down instead of understanding.Thanks for showing us the light at the end of the tunnel.At least you and I recognize it as a light.They recognize it as a train.

Anonymous said...

Experience is the best teacher for knuckleheads. In the past few decades Baltimore City has spent tons on branding, re-branding all for nothing. There has been no results whatsoever. The population of the city continues to decline, businesses are relocating out of that city. The latest campaign to get 10,000 families to move into Balto City fell flat on it's face. All this was pre riots.
People running around wearing Salisbury t-shirts and carrying shopping bags isn't going to cut it. That may have worked 50 years ago but not today. You have to get with the times and it's clear what people want when looking for a place to live, work, visit. Crime is a big factor as is blight. Blight equates to low income levels. What needs to be focused on is getting businesses here that do not depend on the local economy to exist. I have heard of some businesses in other areas that put out relocation surveys to employees and a reason the eastern shore gets axed is because the employees don't want to relocate and have to smell chicken manure. That is a downfall for getting business here.
Personally I wouldn't want to live in Salisbury because of city taxes (I can afford to pay but don't want to) and because most of the residents are rentals. I have nothing against it but there are much better options for people especially those who are on budgets.

Anonymous said...

This branding doesn't tell anyone 'why' Sby.
For instance, you own a small business and desperately need more space. Classify the business as a distribution center. Lots of great commercial properties for sale in Sby at great prices that would be well suited for business but.......lots out in the county and over the line in DE and down in VA. This business would contract out to local printers and local haulers picking up containers at the ports. UPS and other shippers would pick up more business which benefits the employees living in the area. It would be a good business to have in an area as other businesses would see an increase in sales.
The question is Why Salisbury? What does it have to offer? It seems the answer always is the zoo, great restaurants, SU, the hospital, etc. While wonderful none of this helps a business and every area has restaurants, hospitals, colleges.
It's a different era. Cities are dying and people don't need a city, the city needs them.

Ray Wisniewski said...

Well living in the area for over fifty years I have seen it all. I have to say that the city fathers must fix the city first before asking new people and business to come into the city.

Patti Harris said...

I don't think a new design for the city is changing anything. I also do not like the "bury" or "Sby" Downtown is never going to change as long as there is crime. The City needs to be cleaned up first. way back when, I use to go downtown... To the library, to Woolworths or McCrory's (I don't remember for sure), to the dress shop, shoe store. Those thing are long gone. All that is down there now are "cafes"/"drinking spots and antique stores,lawyer officers. To bring the people back to downtown we need to get businesses that the people want to visit. maybe a nice deli,a dollar General, clothing store,and a few specialty stores(nail/hair salon, bakery,butcher shop,farmers market type of open space for fruits veggies(we only have the farmers market 1 day a week at the waterfront)pet store) Just idea's but these are the types of places I would come to downtown for.
When these things left both Downtown Annapolis and The City of Baltimore I stopped going to both Cities. I use to LOVE Lexington Market and Cross Street Market in Baltimore. They had bakeries,fresh meats,fresh seafood,fruits,veggies, places to eat, get fresh flowers, UTZ Chips were packaged right there as you watched. Walmart would not get much money from me if we had a place like that around here. Yes, I know I can drive to Easton and the Amish Market to get these things, however it would be nice to have a place in Salisbury for these items.

JT unfortunately "we are a thug town with shit rivers and drunk college kids" is RIGHT on the MARK.

Anonymous said...

Everything you said is correct!

Anonymous said...

I don't live in Sby or Wic co even but I do like Sby. I shop there sometimes by myself or with a friend. I can not say I feel 100 percent "comfortable" when walking from my car into the mall or from my car to a shopping center even in broad day light. It's not that I'm afraid but I do take care to notice my surroundings more than I do like at the OC outlets or the DE ones. I know someone who lived off of E College Ave for 50 years. They were beginning to feel unsafe (UNcomfortable) living in the neighborhood so sold the house and moved to Wor Co. I think before anyone can think of Sby as comfortable the crime needs to be taken care of and something done with all the dilapidated buildings. There are an awful lot of flop house types of buildings. You can tell because they look like single family homes but have like 10 mailboxes nailed on the porch.

Anonymous said...

Patti do you know Spences' Bazaar in Dover? You would love it. The Amish Market concept is another idea the Sby's missed the boat on. Those places are popular. Instead of selling tax payer owned property for pennies on the dollar to lost cause "music venues" they should concentrate on what's proved to be a winner. Spence's (part Amish market) gets literally 100's of people probably close to a 1000 to downtown Dover on Tues and Fri's. I drive the 1 hour and a half there probably 20 times a year. We go there then to Bylers which is a really neat grocery store and then hit up a few other business like a quilt shop that sells housewares, books, candles and other things.
I just don't understand Sby officials complete and total obsession with all things alcohol. Not everyone enjoys drinking as much as they do. There is a point where people grow up and Downtown should have something other than bars.

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened with 300 Main St. More talking a good game but no results. Now the couple's being sued for more than 22,000 for who knows what maybe back rent on another lost cause business-100 N Division, the bird store.

Anonymous said...

300 main st is ALBEROS property lol I guess he will grab it back from the tenants like he stole the ocean pines property from that poor old woman.

Anonymous said...

Albutthole has never worked a real day in his pathetic life he is a keyboard Coward and a thieving RAT.

Anonymous said...

Albero there's a embryo I would have flushed down the toilet.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate your effort to bring out the good in the logo / slogan change...I was sick of that "Bury" mess the first time I saw it! I will also bet these ones with the smart comments didn't attend either meeting, but would rather belittle your fine efforts. I smell an A$$burrow odor behind their ramblings!!! LOL

Anonymous said...

I blame Wicomico County because Salisbury residents pay county taxes, but get no assistance from the county. Step up to the plate culver and help with crime, jobs, and downtown since GOB is located in the heart of Salisbury.

Anonymous said...

Idiot, blame your SPD police chief Duncan for crime and crime cover up, start there and work your way out NOT the other way around. You sound like a typical Obama blame everyone else Liberal.

Anonymous said...

The SBY logo they are using isn't good. One of the swirls covers the bottom of the B and it looks like SRY. You can see this on the city's website. The seal isn't pleasant to the eye. Too much jumble going on with it. The colors are the same used in a seal for a desert town in CA. More fitting for the desert and NOT coastal at all.
I don't think the whole thing looks professional. I agree in that kids could have done better in art class or a city poster contest.

Anonymous said...

Those who commented on 300 W Main wouldn't recognize a pipe dream if it jumped up and bit them.Were there actually those among you who thought that would fly? That's scary.What else would you believe?